Report of 58th meeting of SAC
Waimea,
Hawaii, Nov 29-30, 2000
The meeting was attended by SAC members P. Bastien, J-L Beuzit, D. Bohlender,
J-G Cuby, L. Drissen, J. Hutchings (chair), M. Pierre, G. Soucail (vice-chair),
J. Tonry, and R. Wainscoat. KAO representatives H. Kim and W. Han were
welcomed as participants. G. Fahlman, C. Veillet, D. Salmon and other CFHT
staff participated in presentations and discussions. CFHT board chair J.
Hesser also attended.
The agenda are listed
below, and the report covers these items in the same order.
Agenda items
1. Megaprime surveys and working group
report, future plans (Veillet)
Also Terapix
progress (Mellier report)
2. WIRCAM funding, partners, schedule,
design (CFHT)
3. CFHT replacement ideas, schedule, funding
and partners, future meetings
(preview
of study reports for CFHT21 meeting)
4. Trends in time applications (CFGT, CTAC,
UH reports)
(Numbers
of proposals, oversubscription, instrument demand, KAO time)
5. Overall long-term instrument plan in
view of 1 - 4 above
6. Queue scheduling plans and progress
(CFHT)
(Phase
2 tools, Elixir, data handling and delivery, Waimea observing)
7. CFHT users meeting - date and place,
topics, speakers, organisers
8. Megaprime project update (Veillet)
9. Update on other instruments and initiatives
(CFHT, Rouen, Catala, Bacon)
(GRIF,
OHANA, Espadons, KIR upgrade, CFHTIR for OSIS, OASIS future)
10. Other current issues (CFHT)
(Dome painting,
dome ventilation, telescope oscillations, CCDs)
11. CFHT data archive issues (CFHT, HIA)
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CFHT technical reports,
memoes on data archives and OHANA, CADC reports, SAC email correspondence,
and reports from Terapix, Espadons, and the IRWG were circulated before
or at the meeting.
1. Megaprime surveys and Terapix
Report
SAC was pleased to receive a detailed report
from the Terapix project, which had been requested, and which dealt with
many questions of
data handling and processing.
SAC approved the following changes to the
Surveys Working group: S. Lilly and H. Richer replaced (due to their assuming
major new duties) by R. Carlberg (Univ of Toronto)and D. Schade (CADC).
SAC also recommended that Y. Mellier be invited into the group to coordinate
Terapix activites, preferably by replacing one of the French members of
the group.
SAC was given a verbal progress report
of the Megacam WG, and of their proposal for a large CFH Legacy Program
amouting for 500 to 1000 nights, to be spread over ~ 5 yrs, covering, and
extending beyond the originally identified scientific programs. In view
of these developments, and of its previous recommendations, SAC has the
following recommendation, noting particularly the importance of the dates
and deadlines indicated:
Recommendation
#1
We urge the Megacam
Survey Working Group to meet, as planned, in January 2001, and provide
during February 2001 a detailed plan, including:
- the scientific
programs
- the areas of the
sky to be covered
- the justification
for the total number of nights, noting the individual survey programs
- the priorities
among scientific goals, and their completion schedule
- the observing
schedule, with attention to
i) optimisation
of science goals, and their defined completion time,
ii) time
constraints for programs like SN or TNO searches and follow-up
- the rationale
for the merging of the individual survey programs into a wider Legacy program
SAC considers
this process to be urgent and essential to establish the survey program,
particularly if the amount of survey time recommended is to exceed the
nominal 6 weeks per year originally suggested. After reviewing this detailed
plan, SAC will evaluate the potential for a Legacy Program, and recommends
the plan to be distributed to the communities for feedback. SAC endorses
the idea of holding regional meetings early in 2001 for this purpose. It
is essential that the Megacam survey plan be very fully developed by the
end of the users meeting 2001, and for the agencies to approve the
use of the telecope time.
In addition, and
in view of the likely development of the WIRCAM project, SAC requests that
a preliminary assessment be made of the possible extension of the surveys
with WIRCAM.
SAC continues to
urge the WG to work with CADC, Terapix, UH and CFHT, to evaluate
and make recommendations for:
- the pipeline requirements,
in view of the current TERAPIX status
- the requirements
for ancillary data (e.g. calibrations, weather information) to enable
full use of the data by the participating scientific communities
- policies for data
proprietary time within the survey communities
- data distribution
and archiving policies for raw and reduced data, inside and outside the
participating communities. Of particular concern is the implementation
of some mechanism allowing rapid access to the survey data for time-critical
programs. The role of CDS, as given in the Terapix report, needs to be
clarified
- the peer review
evaluation of the surveys (see SAC 55th meeting report) |
2. WIRCAM PROJECT
The SAC received a progress report
on negotiations to secure funding for WIRCAM. The SAC was very encouraged
by the progress, and stresses that final agreement must be reached very
soon to allow thw WIRCAM project to proceed at a rapid pace during 2001.
SAC congratulates and thanks the CFHT director for pursuing and completing
these important partnership arrangements.
The SAC also received the science case
report of the Infrared Working Group.
Recommendation
#2
The SAC reaffirms
the very high scientific merit of wide-field imaging in the infrared, but
stresses that there is a narrow time window during which WIRCAM must be
developed for it to have maximum scientific impact. In particular, several
comparable cameras are expected to come into operation during 2004. The
SAC therefore recommends that an agressive timetable is adopted for the
design and construction of WIRCAM, including a call for detailed competitive
designs early in 2001, and use on the telescope in the first semester of
2004. The SAC noted that two-edge abuttable 2K x 2K chips are in development,
and requests that these be considered carefully because they could allow
more economical designs, and would allow the four imaging arrays to be
close-packed (thereby making survey work much more efficient).
The SAC found the
report of the Infrared Working Group valuable, and will seek a group like
this immediately, to operate as a steering group during the design and
construction of WIRCAM. The mandate of this group will need to be drafted.
The IRWG (or the new steering group) should also draw up a short document
outlining the performance and science drivers of WIRCAM for posting on
the CFHT wesbite.
The SAC was very
enthusiastic about the progress being made in developing possible replacement
telescopes for the CFHT. It was noted that in an optimistic schedule, construction
of a replacement telescope could commence as early as 2007. The SAC felt
that the possibility of an early replacement telescope for CFHT did not
in any way diminish the strong scientific need for WIRCAM. Instead, it
underscores the importance of proceeding very aggressively with the design,
fabrication, and commissioning of WIRCAM. |
3. CFHT Replacement Studies
The SAC previewed the
concept studies for CFHT replacement that were to be presented at the CFHT21
celebration meeting. There was unanimous enthusiasm for the goal of a telescope
in the 15m and larger aperture category, and was gratified that the studies
selected earlier in the year have made such impressive progress.
Recommendation
#3
SAC
continues to note that CFHT will be less and less competitive as the decade
progresses with the development of a number of 8m class telescopes about
to come on line. The planned use of the CFHT primarily for wide field imaging
using Megacam and WIRcam will help prolong its ability to do unique science.
However, CFHT will soon need exciting
future plans if
it is to retain the best staff and remain a forefront telescope facility.
With
recommendation by SAC, CFHT has issued contracts to the following groups
to pursue studies of a possible next generation CFHT. These studies are
to be presented at the CFHT celebratory meeting at the end of November
2000, with final, written reports due in May 2001.
o Burgarella
et al (Observatiore Marseille) `A Versatile Wide Angle Survey Telescope
for the Next Generation CFHT'
o Carlberg
et al (Canadian consortium) `The CFH Mammoth Telescope'
o Kuhn
et al (University of Hawaii) `CFH High Dynamic Range Telescope'
These
studies are an essential first step, but are not yet nearly thorough enough
to be able to be certain about engineering feasibility or cost, and therefore
cannot yet be used to seek funding for such a telescope. They do,
however, give a clear signal that CFHT replacement is an extremely important
issue. Efforts must be continued as rapidly as possible, probably
with an infusion of new money from the board, since the funds allocated
in 1995 have been exhausted by these studies. It is desirable to
include CFHT staff in studies,
and SAC feels strongly
that the continued initiative for a next generation CFHT must come from
within the organization. SAC supports every effort to maintain the momentum
and activity of these studies.
SAC
would like to receive the study reports as soon as they are submitted,
and the reports should definitely be made public before the CFHT users
meeting in late May 2001. This users meeting will include a forum
for a detailed discussion of the merits of the different designs (or other
ideas), ideally culminating in an agreement on a desired design and a resolution
to move forward with the engineering studies necessary to pursue funding
for the project.
Recognizing
that the cost of such a telescope will be of order $150M, SAC encourages
CFHT to seek possible partnerships outside of Canada, France, and Hawaii,
for example Korea.
SAC
applauds the work done for these proposals, and is impressed that the telescope
designs have capabilities which go well beyond any existing or planned
telescope, and therefore will remain competitive well into the future.
It is essential that the interest and momentum created by these studies
not be lost, and CFHT must act decisively to continue progress on the next
generation telescope. |
4. Trends in observing applications
SAC reviewed the
proposal pressure and time allocations for the 2001A semester, as reported
by the national TACs and the scheduling plans by the TAC.
CFHT12K is currently
the most widely requested and used instrument on the telescope. SAC notes
that there is high demand for the following instruments, in roughly decreasing
order: AOB, OASIS, MOS, Gecko/CAFE, and the newly commissioned CFHTIR.
Recommendation
#4
After learning about the planned withdrawal of OASIS, SAC is concerned
over OASIS in particular, as it is a widely-requested instrument. SAC is
concerned about similarly-provided instruments in general, and recommends
that notice of at least 2 semesters be given before the instrument be taken
away. For OASIS, this would be not before the end of semester 2002A. This
would allow interested users to plan their research proposals over the
whole sky. |
5. MegaPrime project
SAC reviewed the progress of the
project, and is pleased at the excellent CCD quality and the fact that
all 40 will be placed in the camera. There was discussion of the procedures,
should any changes be required in the CCD mosaic, as we wish to reduce
down time and risk involved in transporting the camera to CEA. SAC was
later assured that there are plans to allow such work to be done in a clean
room at CFHT. Thus, the second paragraph in the recommendation below serves
to simply record the concern, which we believe to be accomodated in the
present plans.
Recommendation
#5
SAC
is pleased at the excellent progress in the Megaprime project, and the
news that it remains on schedule for March 2002. The extra effort that
has been made by CFHT staff to achieve this is appreciated.
SAC
is pleased that plans have been made to ensure that any CCD replacement
or reconfiguration be done at CFHT. The risk and time taken if these had
to be done by shipping to CEA, would be very undesirable. |
6. Instruments and priorities
SAC reviewed and
discussed the instrument projects outlined in the CFHT technical reports
and given in the last SAC report. The following recommendation updates
the priorities of the SAC.
Recommendation
#6
The Megaprime project will dominate most of the technical activities at
CFHT for the year 2001, until the first light foreseen for March 2002,
and full science operation in semester 2002B.
CFHTIR-OSIS will have tests on the telescope in May 2001 and the results
should be reported to SAC, particularly if there are unexpected problems.
In any case it remains behind Megaprime in priority.
Full use of GRIF will await the KIR upgrade, but is expected to be available
for semester 2002A.
Other instrument projects were discussed but at this stage do not appear
to impact CFHT activities significantly. Among them,
1. SAC reaffirms
its support of Espadons, and wishes to see it available by 2003. SAC supports
the requested extra funding from CFHT, provided Espadons also receives
its funding from other sources.
2. SAC agrees
that the OHANA project be pursued. It is noted that OHANA implies the continued
maintainance of AOB, and possibly its upgrade.
3. As requested
by HIA, SAC agrees to the return of the Herzberg spectrograph to Victoria. |
7. Waimea observing
The Waimea
observing room was shown and demonstrated to the SAC. SAC is pleased that
this facility is now working and also that Waimea accomodation for visiting
observers will soon be available. This facility, and the planned level
(and increase) of service observing raise the following issue for staffing
of the observing.
Recommendation
#7
The start
of service observing and its expected increase as Megaprime is commissioned,
will introduce signficant problems with CFHT staff in following the two-person
summit rule, since the service observer can operate fully and more efficiently
from Waimea. SAC urges that alternatives be investigated to ensure safety
at the summit. Possibilities include personal audio or video links. As
this problem is not confined to CFHT, there may also be joint ways to seek
solutions among the Mauna Kea facility communities. |
8. Queue Scheduled Service Observing
SAC was given detailed demonstrations
and presentations on the queue scheduling tools and phase 2 observer input
interface, and the Elixir developents.
The SAC is very impressed
with the tremendous progress that has been made in QSO development since
the 2000 May meeting, and congratulates the CFHT QSO team for their efforts.
Recommendation
#8
1. SAC urges
CFHT to continue to educate CFH12K applicants, as well as the national
TACs about the requirements for successful operation of QSO.
2. In particular,
potential users should be reminded that QSO blurs the traditional Right
Ascension boundaries of the current observing semesters. For example,
targets which may be optimally positioned for classical observing in October
might be readily observed in queue-mode in July.
3. TACs must
continue to make efforts to ensure that agency queues contain proposals
requiring a complete range of observing conditions and target coordinates.
4. The CFHT
communities should also be encouraged to submit more snapshot proposals
which can produce important scientific results in less-than-optimal observing
conditions.
5. At the
current time, SAC recommends that proposed changes in targets from those
indicated in a PI's original observing proposal should be forwarded to
the CFHT Director who will evaluate the possible impact on the execution
of the CFH12K queue, as well as the proposed science.
6. There continue
to be concerns among SAC members about the calibration plan for QSO.
Care should be taken to ensure that observing time is not wasted with the
acquisition of photometric standard field observations during obvious non-photometric
conditions. Brief mention was made of a CFHT investigation of the
implementation of a small telescope to monitor sky conditions, and SAC
urges CFHT to investigate the possibility of using this telescope to obtain
photometric data in support of both QSO and classical observing with the
CFH12K camera, and later with MegaPrime.
7. SAC reiterates
the importance of ensuring that the design and operation of QSO should
result, when observing conditions permit, in the execution and completion
of programs given the highest scientific ranks by the member TACs.
8. SAC requests
that a progress report on QSO and Elixir operation be presented to the
SAC at the 2001 May meeting, or earlier as problems arise. |
9. Other matters
In view
of the shortness of the SAC meeting, there was not time to review other
matters in depth, or to make other detailed recommendations.
Issues and
memoes concerning the CFHT archive were reviewed and noted, including the
general memo on archiving from the CFHT director to SAC and the Board,
and the report and comments from CADC. It is felt that there are no major
problems, but note that detailed communications should continue between
CADC and CFHT, as previously recommended by SAC.
Other items
described in the CFHT technical reports were noted but not discussed. These
include dome painting, the CFHT12K shutter, CCD news, the commissioning
of CFHTIR, and the primary mirror support. SAC appreciates the work by
CFHT staff in all these matters.
10. Future meetings
SAC members Hutchings, Cuby, and Wainscoat retire at the end of 2000. New
members will be announced in the new year. G. Soucail will be SAC chair
starting in 2001.
SAC anticipates supporting regional meetings of the MSWG after receiving
its survey plan in February.
SAC has scheduled the next users meeting for May 31-June 1 in Lyon. The
agenda will include discussions on CFHT replacement studies and plans,
the Megaprime survey science, and QSO operation. The SAC should meet at
the time of the users meeting. Because of the closeness to the dates of
the CASCA meeting on May 27-29, and the French holiday weekend, the schedule
for the SAC meeting needs to be resolved.